<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post6920886854345698845..comments</id><updated>2008-12-01T14:23:05.418-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Welcome to the Gutter: Ugggh...Struck by the PDT Again!</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/feeds/6920886854345698845/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html'/><author><name>James Krieger, M.S., M.S., no B.S.</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11922537744815539996</uri><email>Yngvai@comcast.net</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>8</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-1170459520860230986</id><published>2008-12-01T14:23:05.418-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T14:23:05.418-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Just sent it to you</title><content type='html'>Just sent it to you</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/1170459520860230986'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/1170459520860230986'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228170185418#c1170459520860230986' title=''/><author><name>Yngvai</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11922537744815539996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='06716996010256801411'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-8746166332087472777</id><published>2008-12-01T13:57:16.849-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T13:57:16.849-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey Yng,Thanks for the answer. But I think I just ...</title><content type='html'>Hey Yng,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for the answer. But I think I just messed up the whole setup I worked on with Excel, any chance you can email me your excel setup? of course you pull your numbers out and just keep the formulas..&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;if that's possible, please send it to heatmaster@gmail.com</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/8746166332087472777'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/8746166332087472777'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228168636849#c8746166332087472777' title=''/><author><name>Allen</name><uri>http://allenation.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-2618046989823945410</id><published>2008-12-01T13:54:14.173-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T13:54:14.173-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Allen,I just looked at your spreadsheet.In my spre...</title><content type='html'>Allen,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I just looked at your spreadsheet.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In my spreadsheet, P/L% is calculated as:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(Exit price x #shares - total commission) / (Entry price x #shares) x 100 - 100&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;In my Excel spreadsheet, for shorts, I always put my short entry as the "exit price" and my short exit as the "entry price."  Thus, my % P/L calculation is the same for shorts and longs.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your Excel formula is wrong in a number of ways.  First, you need to subtract the commissions from your (entry price x # shares)...not add the commissions.  Second, you need to divide the (entry x #shares - commissions) by the (exit x #shares).  In your formula, you are adding them.  Then, you multiply everything by 100, then subtract 100 to get your P/L%.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/2618046989823945410'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/2618046989823945410'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228168454173#c2618046989823945410' title=''/><author><name>Yngvai</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11922537744815539996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='06716996010256801411'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-7535483723363556348</id><published>2008-12-01T11:33:44.225-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T11:33:44.225-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey Yng,Thanks for answering, I am actually trying...</title><content type='html'>Hey Yng,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Thanks for answering, I am actually trying to get the P/L% for the trade after commission. I don't have separate commissions columns, I just add them up and put them in a column.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sorry for bothering you at work, I can wait this until you get home :)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/7535483723363556348'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/7535483723363556348'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228160024225#c7535483723363556348' title=''/><author><name>Allen</name><uri>http://allenation.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-7352285309506101697</id><published>2008-12-01T11:23:17.779-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T11:23:17.779-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Thanks, bctrader!  You're right...this is a journe...</title><content type='html'>Thanks, bctrader!  You're right...this is a journey and, bit by bit, we'll all get better at it as long as we learn from our mistakes and strive to get better and help each other</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/7352285309506101697'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/7352285309506101697'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228159397779#c7352285309506101697' title=''/><author><name>Yngvai</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11922537744815539996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='06716996010256801411'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-1335773832917206420</id><published>2008-12-01T11:22:20.291-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T11:22:20.291-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Allen,Your site is blocked from my work so I can't...</title><content type='html'>Allen,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Your site is blocked from my work so I can't look at it right now.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Here's the way I calculate P/L after commissions:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;(#shares x exit price) - (#shares x entry price) - total commission&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;where total commission = commission on entry + commission on exit&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Let me know if that works...I'll try to look at your thing when I get home if I don't hear from you by then</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/1335773832917206420'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/1335773832917206420'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228159340291#c1335773832917206420' title=''/><author><name>Yngvai</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/11922537744815539996</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email><gd:extendedProperty xmlns:gd='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005' name='OpenSocialUserId' value='06716996010256801411'/></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-5328960769485733477</id><published>2008-12-01T10:33:39.699-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T10:33:39.699-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Hey man, I need help with my excel spreadsheet, I ...</title><content type='html'>Hey man, I need help with my excel spreadsheet, I can't get a formula to work, I'd really appreciate if you head over here:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://allenation.com/excel-help-needed-what-am-i-doing-wrong/104&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and try to assist me, thanks a bunch!</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/5328960769485733477'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/5328960769485733477'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228156419699#c5328960769485733477' title=''/><author><name>Allen</name><uri>http://allenation.com</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-3078742392765807792</id><published>2008-12-01T05:32:35.567-08:00</published><updated>2008-12-01T05:32:35.567-08:00</updated><title type='text'>Yng,  Keep plugging away.  For most of us, trading...</title><content type='html'>Yng,  Keep plugging away.  For most of us, trading as a full-time endeavor is somewhere in the distance but every step brings us closer.  Every dollar added to the account, every bad trade, every good trade, every discovery of a new scan, every day in GOTS with Muddy &amp;amp; Laura, and every piece of knowledge passed on to others brings us one step closer to  financial freedom and personal satisfaction that is successful trading.  And, we&amp;#39;re all going there together!   I still place your blog high on the list of daily reads.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/3078742392765807792'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/6920886854345698845/comments/default/3078742392765807792'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html?showComment=1228138355567#c3078742392765807792' title=''/><author><name>bluecollartrader</name><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://www.welcometothegutter.com/2008/11/uggghstruck-by-pdt-again.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1797814728390014124.post-6920886854345698845' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/1797814728390014124/posts/default/6920886854345698845' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>